Volume 12

X208
Thomas Wilson, agent to Boulton & Watt, of Chacewater
Collection
80 items (81 documents)
Manuscript
1800-1803

Letters, administration of Boulton and Watt's patents in Cornwall.

X208/1
Letter, T Gundry to
Edwards regarding Wheal Jewell and Treskow savings
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
3 Jan 1800

Endorsed: 3d January 1800. Thomas Gundry Jun[io]r. Wheal Jewell Savings. Treskow D[itt]o.
Addressed to: Mr. John Edwards, Att[orne]y at Law, Truro.

''Sir/
            In answer to your Letter, which I have just received; the amount of the savings of Wheal Jewell Engine I thought to have remitted to Mr. Wilson er'e that as the Engine is sold to Capt[ain] Trevithick & he have since disposed of it to Mr. John Williams for Godolphin Mine, which amount I was promised to be paid this Week; but as I have not yet received it is the cause of the delay of payment of Messrs Boulton & Watts Savings, being out a good deal of Money on the Mine at this time it is not convenient to send the amo[un]t of Savings until I receive for the Engine, which I shall send to Mr. Williams for the beginning of next week, when an immediate remittance shall be made for the Savings;- hope you'l indulge the Adv[enturer]s until that time, when you may assure Mr. Wilson it shall be paid - I am Sir Y[ou]r m[os]t obed[ien]t Serv[an]t,
                                                Tho[ma]s Gundry J[u]n[io]r
Goldsithney
3[r]d Jan[ua]ry 1800}
                                                Please to turn over

J[oh]n Gundry will remitt for Treskow Savings next Week}''

 

X208/2
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding refund for Consolidated Mines adventurers
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
5 Jan 1800

Endorsed: R Boulton Esq[uir]e Jan[uar]y 5th 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Thom[a]s Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                        ''Soho Jan[uar]y 5[t]h 1799 [struck through and amended to] 1800
Mr T Wilson
            Dear Sir
                        We inclose you sundry bills value together £1115..12 [shillings]..6 [pence] being the am[oun]t of the first instalment of the refund to certain Adven[ture]rs in the Consolidated Mines -
            The particulars of the bills are as follows.
            No 1.   Am[oun]t £191..5. in favor of S[i]r W[illia]m Lemon Bar[one]t for 1/16.
            2.   Am[oun]t £334.13.9 {in favor of Rev[eren]d H H Tremayne
                                                 for 1/32 on his own acc[oun]t                                       95..12.6
                                                 1/16 on behalf of F Rodd Esq[uir]e                               191.5 -
                                                 1/64 on &c of Mr Wallis's Es[qui]r[e]s                           47..16.3
            3. Am[oun]t - 167.6.10 ½ {in favor of J[oh]n Vivian Esq[ui]r[e].
                                                  for 3/128 on his own Acc[oun]t -                                  71..14.4½
                                                  1/64 on behalf of Rich[ar]d Vivian                                 47..16.3 -
                                                  1/64 &c &c - Rob[er]t Walker -                                    47..16.3.
            4. Am[oun]t - 374.10.7½ {in favor of Messrs G C G R & T Fox
                                                  for 3/64 & 2/3 on Acc[oun]t of Fox Philips & Fox          175..6.3
                                                 3/128 on their own Acc[oun]t -                                      71..14.4½
              1/96 Dashwood & Latter                                               31..17.6
              1/32 Jos[ep]h Harford -                                                 95..12.6
            5. Am[oun]t - 47..16.3     {in favor of Silvanus Jenkins Esq[uire]
              for 1/64 on his own Acc[oun]t -
            The Am[oun]t of your own Share viz 1/128 being £23.18.1½ we have passed to your credit -
            We shall thank you to advise us of the receipt of the bills & to remit them to the respective parties -
                        We are
                                    D[ea]r Sir
                                                            Your obed[ien]t humb[le] Ser[vant]s
                                                   For Boulton & Watt
                                                                     Robinson Boulton
            PS.   We shall be glad to learn whether Mr Murdock is safely returned -''

 

X208/3
Letter, G Watt to
Wilson regarding receipt of letter
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
10 Jan 1800

Endorsed: Gregory Watt 10 Jan[uar]y 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Wilson, Truro, Cornwall -

   ''Mr Wilson
            Dear Sir
                        We have duely rec[eive]d your letter and its enclosures which have been duely passed to your credit - We should have acknowledged the receipt two days ago had we not been compleatly occupied by other business -
   We remain Dear Sir
                                                Your very Obed[ien]t Serv[an]ts
                                                            for Boulton & Watt
                                                                        Gregory Watt
   Soho Jan[uar]y 10th
            1800''

 

X208/4
Letter, J Gundry to
Wilson enclosing Trescow savings
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
11 Jan 1800

Endorsed: John Gundry 11 Jan[uar]y 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Tho[ma]s Wilson, Truro.

                                                                        ''Goldsithney 11[t]h Jan[uar]y 1800
Sir
            Inclosed you have Bills p[er]Checks for the Am[oun]t of Five Months Savings to Messrs Boulton & Watt - charg[e]d to Treskowe Mine end Sep[tembe]r 1799 - being £93..6 [shillings].8 [pence]
            Ye Letter for acknowledge[men]t
                                                Will greatly Oblige
                                                            Sir
                                                   Y[ou]r H[um]ble Serv[an]t
                                                                 John Gundry''

 

X208/5
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding legal documents for William Murdock
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
17 Jan 1800

Endorsed: Robinson Boulton Jan[uar]y 17 - 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                                    ''Soho Jan[uar]y 17 1800.-
Mr T Wilson
            Dear Sir
                        We have duly recieved your two favors of the 10th & 13th Inst[an]t the latter covering 3 bills value together £143...6 [shillings]...8 [pence] which are at your Credit -
            You will recieve soon after the present a packet from Messrs Westons containing some legal documents relative to Mr Murdocks patent which it will be necessary for him to execute & return without all possible dispatch - They are addressed to you in order to prevent delay & we beg that upon their arrival you will send a special messenger to Murdock to desire him to come into Truro & execute the specification before a master in Chancery - Messrs Westons will send you the requisite instructions as to the formalities in the execution of them - This affair has been postponed so long that without every possible expedition is used in returning the specification to Messrs Westons we fear there will not be time for the enrollment of it - We have written to Murdock to inform him of the necessity of obeying your summons imediately & begging your kind attentions to this business.
                        We remain
                                    Dear Sir
                                                Your obed[ien]t humb[le] Ser[van]ts
                                                   For Boulton & Watt
                                                      Robinson Boulton

PS.   We are now employed in preparing our artillery against the Hornblower pirates & have not therefore leisure to enter into the discussion respects the termination of our Acc[oun]t - This is however a question to which we shall revert when we have got the other business into train & in the mean time it will be highly proper for you to collect with all practicable dispatch the arrears to the end say 29th of Nov[embe]r as that term does not admit of any dispute -''

 

 

X208/6
Letter,
A & J Weston to Wilson enclosing engrossment of Murdock's scottish patent
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
18 Jan 1800

Endorsed: A & J Weston Jan[uar]y 15th 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

''Sir,

 

            We have sent you by this Evening's Mail, directed to you, the Ingrossment of Mr Murdock's Specification of his Scotch Patent, which we request you will, if possible, get executed and acknowledged by him before Mr Edwards, or any other Master Extra[ordinar]y in Truro, and return by the next Mail or other first Opportunity after you receive it. The time for Inrolment expires on the 1st of February and no time must therefore be lost lest any Accident should occur to prevent it's getting to Edinburgh in time.
                                                                        We are Sir
                                                                                    Your most obed[ien]t Serv[an]ts
                                                                                                    A & J Weston
Fenchurch Street
18 January 1800}
                                                The ingrossment has been examined and agrees with the one inrolled here. -
Mr. Thomas Wilson
                              Truro''

 

X208/7
Letter,
A & J Weston to Wilson regarding receipt of Murdock's specification
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
24 Jan 1800

Endorsed: A & J Weston Jan[uar]y 24th - 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Tho[ma]s Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

            ''Sir,

                        We received your Letter and the Parcel containing Mr Murdock's Specification this Morning. - We have forwarded the Specification, which is properly executed and acknowledged, to Edinburgh by this Evening's Mail for Inrollment
                                                                        We are Sir,
                                                                                    Your most obed[ient] Serv[an]ts
                                                                                                A & J Weston
Fenchurch Street
24 January 1800

     Mr. Thomas Wilson Truro Cornwall''

 

X208/8
Letter,
Watt junior to Wilson regarding declarations to served upon Hornblower and others
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
31 Jan 1800

Endorsed: James Watt Jun[io]r 31st Jan[uar]y 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

''Mr. Wilson
      Truro
                                                                                    London St[ree]t 31st January 1800
Dear Sir
            I have once more taken my station here to try whether I cannot quicken the motions of the Adv[enture]rs in Balcoath, Wh[ea]l Rose, & Godolphin. The Declarations will be served upon some of them this day, and upon the others early in the insuing Week. The Trials may come on either in the sittings after this term (middle of Feb[ruar]y) or after next Term (some time in May). -
            The Declarations against Jonathan Hornblower will also be served today and unless they continue to delay it, will be tried in the course of the next month. You will therefore be holding yourself in readiness to come to town at that time, and desire Murdock, Rogers & R. Mitchel to do the same. - I wish you to reconsider all the transactions that have taken place with Jonathan Hornblower, particularly what notices or threats have at different times been given or held by you or B&W to them and to the Adv[enture]rs who have employed them. A succinct History with Dates would be usefull to me and to the cause.
            We must have somebody to prove the times the Engines worked at Godolphin, Wh[ea]l Rose & Balcoath - can any of our friends do this, and if they cannot, who will be the proper persons to subpœna. Any of the Captains or Agents might be brought up & obliged to bring the Books of the Mine with them, which I suppose would prove what we want. -
            Murdock has made us a capital model of Horner's Engine, which will enable us to put all their sophistry to the route and the Century, (in spite of all disputes) will not close until their disgrace is compleated. -
                                                                        I am D[ea]r Sir
                                                                                    Yours truly
                                                                                                J Watt Jun[io]r''

 

X208/9
Letter, R Michell to
Wilson regarding his requiring a subpœna
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
8 Feb 1800

Endorsed: Richard Mitchell Feb[ruar]y 8 - 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Tho[ma]s Wilson, Truro.

                                                                                    ''8 Febr[uar]y 1800

Sir,
I am informed by Mr. E[dwar]d Rogers that I am requested by Messrs Boulton & Watt to hold myself in readiness to go to London some time in this Month - I have no objections - But, I think it will be exceeding necessary that I do have a Subpœna in Order that I may testify - I do not leave my buisiness without Just Cause at this critical time.
                                                            I remain Sir your Most
                                                                        Obed[ien]t Servant
                                                                                    Rich[ar]d Michell''

 

X208/10
Letter, Watt junior and M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding delay in the Hornblower case
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
11 Feb 1800

Endorsed: James Watt J[unio]r & Matt[he]w R Boulton - Feb[raur]y 11th 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                        ''London 11 Feb[raur]y 1800
Mr. Wilson

            Dear Sir

                        Hornblower has succeeded in procuring a delay until the Sittings after next term, and I presume the other actions will stand over till the same time. Shall however expect you to send the Information requested in my last -
                                                            I am truly
                                                                                    D[ea]r Sir
                                                                                                Yours
                                                                                                      J Watt Jun[io]r''

 

      ''Dear Sir
            In case a settlement has not yet taken place with the Grundrys both for Wh[ea]l Jewel & Trescow we shall thank you to furnish us with copies of the Acc[oun]ts delivered by you - We shall devise some method of bringing those affairs to a conclusion being fully tired of the chicanery of those gentlemen - I am anxious to know whether the Box mentioned in my letter to Mrs Wilson has ever been recieved.
            When lately at Bath I went over to Bristol to make enquiries of Mrs Barlow to whom it was addressed & found that it had been forwarded by the Exeter Carrier with directions to Rupel the Falmouth Carrier - Please therefore to learn of the latter what has been the reason of the Box not being delivered in course - I remain
                                                                        D[ea]r Sir
                                                                                    Your obed[ient] humb[le] Ser[vant]
                                                                                       Robinson Boulton''

 

 

X208/11
Letter, G Watt to
Wilson junior regarding receipt of bills
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
3 Mar 1800

Endorsed: Mr Greg[or]y Watt March 3[r]d 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Thomas Wilson Jun[io]r, Truro, Cornwall.

''Mr Thomas Wilson Jun[io]r
            Truro
                                                                                    Soho March 3[r]d
                                                                                                1800
Dear Sir
                        We have duly rec[eive]d your favour inclosing Bills to the amount of £240. -
It is requisite that these Bills should be indorsed by your father but we shall perhaps be able to procure his endorsation by sending them to London
We are all happy to hear of your improved health which we flatter ourselves will continue to amend -
With best respects to your Mother and to all your family I remain Dear Sir
                                                                        Yours truly
                                                                                    Gregory Watt''

 

 

X208/12
Letter,
Pearson to Wilson regarding errors in accounts
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
22 Mar 1800

Endorsed: Boulton & Watt March 22nd 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall. -

                                                                        ''Soho 22 March 1800
Mr Thomas Wilson
            Sir
                        Annexed you have account against Poldice Adv[enture]rs £119. 9 [shillings]. - & also an account against United Mines Adv[enture]rs £180. 15 [shillings]. 3 [pence] with both be pleased to do the needful. above you have account of some little errors in Commission Account, which if found to be right stated please carry the diff[eren]ce to account & say you have done so. Have also sent accounts, as above, of sundry other matters; which you have not given credit for, and which beg you will pass to account, or give reasons for not doing it. -
Beg you will please to say what is doing with the double Engines, as nothing respecting them hath appeared in your accounts of along while. -                        We are             Sir
                                                            Your mo[st] ob[edient] Ser[van]ts
                                                                  For Boulton & Watt
                                                                  James Pearson.''

[Gives above errors in account of commission regarding Pednandrea, Wheal Gorland, Consolidated Mines and Wheal Godolphin Addit, and other accounts as specified in the letter]

 

 

X208/13
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding the sale of William Murdock's shares
Item
1 folio and 1 sheet
Manuscript
27 Mar 1800

Endorsed: Mr R Boulton Mar 27 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                        ''Soho March 27th 1800
            Mr T Wilson
                        Dear Sir
                                    The purchasers we had in view for Mr Murdocks shares were the Birmingham Mining Co[mpany] - Being still desirous of increasing their Mining concerns we concieved by proper representations to Mr Simcox, they might be induced to agree with Mr Murdock upon liberal terms - Such negotiation would however require time as Mr Simcox is still detained in London & by avocations which we can easily concieve will not allow him to pay much attention to any other subject - Our desire to see Mr Murdock relieved from the anxiety which this vexatious concern has hitherto caused him & will we are persuaded continue to occassion him would certainly stimulate us to use every influence we possess with Mr Simcox to bring the business to a speedy & satisfactory issue. We could not however flatter ourselves with recieving a definitive answer to our proposals in less than 3 weeks or a month, knowing how much Mr Simcox is engaged at this time - The question of Mr J Watt originated solely from an intention to offer our services as a mediator in case we saw any prospect of finding a customer for the shares & by no means from any thought of becoming ourselves the purchasers - You know our opinion of the general system pursued in Cornish mining concerns too well to imagine we entertain any wish of investing our property in such speculations - For the same reason we think them still less advisable for Mr Murdock & we own it would afford us much pleasure to learn that he was entirely extricated from them - We forebore also to make him any offers on our own Account from a consciousness that the strong bias of our opinion rendered us perhaps in some measure incompetent judges of the value of his shares & that therefore the great disparity in our appreciation of them might induce a misconstruction of our motives in urging the sale of them. After the advice we have repeatedly given Mr Murdock upon this subject we still feel considerable embarrassment from this consideration & we see but one method of obviating the objection satisfactorily - viz to appoint an abitrator, to whom judgement the value of the shares in question shall be referred -
   Should this suggestion prove agreeable to Mr Murdock we should propose to nominate Capt[ai]n Rogers in whose judgement & integrity we believe both parties have perfect confidance. We shall agree to take the shares at his valuation & to dispose of them to the Birm[ingha]m Co[mpany] or other purchaser at our risk - By naming Capt[ai]n Rogers we have no intention of precluding Mr Murdock from appointing any other person to act on his behalf should he have the least wish to do so - We beg you will likewise apologise to the Capt[ai]n of our imposing upon him such a troublesome office & use your influence with him in inducing him to undertake it - In the event also of our proposal being accepted by Murdock we wish you to understand that it is our earnest wish to find a customer for these & our other Mine Shares & we shall be obliged to you to second our view in this respect & by any means in your power -
   We thank you for the intimation in the concluding paragraph of your letter, but the high opinion we entertain of Murdock's sense of honor will not allow us to imagine that he would listen to any proposals of the nature you mention with[ou]t comunicating with us, & we earnestly hope if it should ever be his lot to have any transactions with cornish deputies he will so far bear in mind his own & our experience of their faithful adherence to treaties & contracts not to be deluded by promises which are not backed by a positive & tangible security - Now to come more immediately to our concerns we shall state to you shortly our opinion of the measures which it will be proper to pursue in regard to our further demands of premium - We wish you in all cases to renew the arrears which may be offered up to November & to put in demands to a later period -
   It appears to us of little signification what inferences may be drawn from this proceeding - If our claims can be maintained in a court of law it will impose little what opinion may be entertained of them in Cornwall & without they can bear such an investigation we should not think of enforcing them - Our attention during the ensuing term will be occupied by Hornblowers case but when that is disposed of we shall sift the doubts of our cornish sceptics in regard to the other question - The payments to Lander may be continued till you hear further from us upon that subject -
   We remain
                        Dear Sir   your obed[ien]t humb[le] Ser[van]ts
                                          For Boulton & Watt
                                                                        Robinson Boulton.

PS.   Mr Dowsons Account has been closed as you direct - I was sorry to observe among Mr Pearsons remarks to you a query respecting the Copying Machine sent to Mr J Edwards - You need not take any further notice of this item as Mr P has now the necessary instructions respecting it -''

 

 

X208/14
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding correspondence relevant to the Hornblower case
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
2 Apr 1800

Endorsed: Mr R Boulton Ap[ri]l 2 1800.
Addressed to: Mr T Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

''Mr T Wilson
                                                                                    Soho April 2nd 1800
            Dear Sir
                        As it may be material to prove upon the trial of Hornblower, that we have uniformly considered his Engine an infringement upon our rights & upon all occassions maintained this opinion both towards the parties directly as well as in our communications with them thro' you it will be proper for you to be prepared with the facts tending to corroborate this allegat[io]n.
            With the view of refreshing your memory we send you extracts from our mutual correspondence of such matter as we have met with in any degree relevant to Hornblower's business - A conversation with Murdock might also be useful in assisting both of you to recollect more clearly the transactions which have at different times taken place between you & the cornubians -
   We shall be glad to hear from you soon in answer to our last of the 27th Ult[im]o
            & remain
                        D[ea]r Sir
                                                Your obed[ien]t humb[le] Ser[van]ts
                                                   For B&W
                                                            Robinson Boulton''

 

 

X208/15
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding the sale of William Murdock's shares
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
3 Apr 1800

Endorsed: Mr R Boulton Ap[ri]l 3 1800.
Addressed to: Mr T: Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                                    ''Soho April 3rd 1800 -
Mr T Wilson
            D[ea]r Sir
                        Our letters appear to have crossed each other on the road & we doubt not by this time you are in possession of our sentiments in regard to the purchase of Murdock's Shares.
     At all events we shall be willing to accept Murdocks draft for the amount you mention viz £256...8 [shillings]..4 a 30 day & if the draft has been made payable at your house we shall beg you to honor it on our acc[oun]t. We should presume the premiums due from the Mines under J Williams' Management comprehending only the term to the end of Nov[embe]r must be nearly sufficient to cover the am[oun]t of the draft, the deficiency if any may we should concieve be supplied by the reciepts from other Mines for our unliquidated claims to the same period & as a dernier resort you may value upon us payable at Mrs Matthews.
     We are at a loss to understand the concluding paragraph of your last letter of the 30th Ult[im]o - you say ''I have only further to observe that if you take his shares, it will be miserable for him in fact it would make me mad'' - Our sole view in becoming the purchasers was to relieve Murdock's mind from anxiety & by no means to make him miserable or you mad. If you think either of these consequences likely to ensue we shall abandon all thoughts of buying them -
            Do mention in your next whether any thing conclusive has been done with he Wh[ea]l Jewel Purser - T Grundy - You have so often interceded for this delinquent that we shall soon begin to hold you responsible for his future transgressions -
            We remain
                        D[ea]r Sir
                                                Your obed[ien]t humb[le] Ser[van]t
                                                   For Boulton & Watt
                                                        Robinson Boulton''

 

 

X208/16
Letter, T Gundry to
Wilson regarding Wheal Jewell savings
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
17 Apr 1800

Endorsed: Thomas Gundry April 17th - 1800.
Addressed to: Mr. Tho[ma]s Wilson, Truro.

                                                                        ''Goldsithney 17th April
                                                                                                1800
Mr. T Wilson
                        Sir /
                             Am sorry you should have occasion to write again ab[ou]t the Savings of Wh[eal] Jewell Engine, its owing to the delay of payment with Capt[ain] Trevithick for the M[a]t[eria]ls of the Engine bought by him, & from him by Mr. Williams for Godolphin Bridge, all that I have rece[ive]d is £430.. towards nearly £1100 -
However have inclosed one Bill on Acco[un]t of the Savings value £87..13 [shillings].10 [pence] and hope the remainder will follow soon;- as I am again promised a further payment shortly
                                                            I am Sir Y[ou]r mo[st] ob[edien]t Serv[an]t
                                                                        Tho[mas] Gundry J[unio]r

P.S. Please to acknowledge the receipt of the inclosed -''

 

 

X208/17
Letter, G Watt to
Wilson with extracts of Wilson's letters concerning the Hornblower case
Item
1 large folio
Manuscript
21 Apr 1800

Endorsed: Gregory Watt April 21st 1800.
Addressed to: Mr Thomas Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

                                                                                    ''Soho April 21
                                                                                                1800
Mr Wilson
      Truro

Dear Sir
                                    I have the pleasure of annexing copies of such passages as appear important in your correspondence in addition to those already sent to you. I hope they may be what you wish.
   I have the pleasure of announcing the safe arrival of Mr Murdock and his two sons at Soho. Mr M. appears to be in good health - I was very happy to hear from agreeable accounts of your family especially of Thomas whose health I trust will be permanently established
      With kindest respects to Mrs Wilson and good wishes to all your family believe me
                        Dear Sir   yours
                                                very obl[i]ged Servant
                                                            Gregory Watt

My Father Brother & Mr R Boulton are at present from home on an excursion so that your letter to the latter which was delivered here by Mr Murdock remains unopened at present. I presume there is nothing in it that demands urgent dispatch''

 

                                                ''Extracts from Mr. Wilsons Letters

 

Chacewater Feb[ruar]y 3[r]d 1787.   Little said in my hearing about the Horners. Mr. Reid says they will have one at Baldew, Mr. Daniell has certainly stopt that at Wh[ea]l Unity. - Yours 16 Sept[ember] 1790. I had some conversation with Mr. Richards on the Tincroft Engine, he says he cannot believe you will give them any disturbance, for so trifling a business; he was very polite &c - Truro Dec[embe]r 8th 1791   I was very sensible of the difference betwixt the performance of Tincroft & some of your large Engines, but is it fair to compair small with large Engines. - The business of Poldice, Un[ite]d Mines, N[orth] Downs & Consolidated Mines, may rest without prejudice. . - Truro Dec[embe]r 3[r]d 1791. I told him that as it was resolved to have one of H[ornblower]s Engines, it was needless to trouble you on the subject as I had intended; he answered that their wish was to employ that Engineer, who would build the cheapest, that he was determined to set the Engine, to build, & that he should expect those that built it to take a large share in the mine, & desired I would write you, to know for what sum you would erect an Engine capable of going 90 Fathoms or a 100 deep to draw an 18 Inch box at least 8 feet stroke in the pump, say 60 Inch double. - - I wish you may have health & spirits enough to make every preparation, necessary for properly meeting the H[ornblower]s in a court of Justice, you may depend upon it, it must be done, & the best way is to face the danger boldly. I am Sir &c.-......Truro Dec[embe]r 21st 1791 I have heard that the new Hallamanin Adv[enture]rs are determined to alter that Engine, & that Hornb[lowe]r has been already consulted, & that Sir C[hristopher] Hawkins has promised to take the consequences upon himself, the Birmingham Co[mpany']s Agent told me such a thing had been talked off, but not concluded upon, I think it will be necessary for you to make some enquiries of Sir C H about this, before you commence Adv[enture]rs. - Truro.July 14th..1792. I went forward to Tincroft to Captain Jos[eph] Vivian to get an acc[oun]t of the Loads that Engine wrought under from her setting to work to the end of July, this he refused unless I got an order from one of the Adv[enture]rs. I went to Mr. Kevill who promised to see him this day, & to give him leave; my motive for procuring this information is, to be able to state what that Engine did in July last, (When H[ornblowe]rs published their Advertisement & stated ''they had exhibited a Machine which evidently surpasses every other of the kind in a double proportion'') & what Wh[ea]l Jewell is now doing, a Comparison, which cannot be objected to, as the Engines are loaded alike in proportion to their powers, & going nearly at the same rate though I did not get the information I wanted, I got by other means, what is nearly equal; the Engine drew 10 fathoms on the 22nd May, when Mr. Hornb[lowe]r made his tryal; Capt Jos[eph] told me they sunk in a month 2 Fath[om]s; add therefore 4 Fath[om]s sunk in June & July the depth will then be 14, but for fear of being under say 15 the performance of TinCroft in that Month, (of their boasting Advertisement) will be 15 fath[om]s of 8 Inch, 4 strokes p[er] minute, with 11 bushels of coal p[er] day. I was at Wh[eal] Jewel again on Wednesday, to put on a counter, & found them draw their House water 8 fath[om]s 6 I[nch] which is more than I before knew of. Wh[ea]l Jewell is now drawing them 20..4 of 9 Inch, and 10..4 of 6 Inch, 4½ strokes p[er] minute, & burns 10 bushels p[er] day. this perfomance without taking into acc[oun]t 100 Fath[om]s of flat rods & 90 perpendicular in both shafts as W[heal] Jewell or 4 buckets against their 2, will be much superior to theirs at the time of their boast of excelling & I think it will be proper the world should know. In my way back I called at TinCroft Engine, but was refused admittance, she is now loaded to 13.3lb [pound] p[er] Inch, works as heavy as one of yours full loaded, the man could not put her more than 9 strokes p[er] minute, but asserted she would go 12 with strong steam. I got him to confess she only made 4 strokes p[er] minute, till they cut the Load, which a Captain there owned it was in Nov[embe]r or Dec[embe]r. Capt Jos[eph] told me he had at their Acc[oun]t on Tuesday, mentioned the proposal, of putting the Engine 1/3 deeper with one Cyl[inde]r & at the same expence of Coal, under a penalty, the Adv[enture]rs said they would consider of it, but Mr. Kevill told me he understood Mr. Richards would do all in his power to prevent it. My intention at present is, to write a letter adressed to the Lords & Adv[enture]rs, (as soon as I can come at a few more facts, which I hope to do by the End of this Month,) in my own name; before publishing I would submit it to both young & old Mr. Edwards for amendment of Language &c, I think this would be better than from you, because I can say more for you with propriety than would become you for yourselves, I would begin with shewing the savings you have made by comparing the consumption of the old Engines with yours at Consol[olida]t[ed], Wh[ea]l Chance, Chacewater & Godolphin & from the savings at Consols what has been saved at Poldice, United Mines & N[orth] Downs, & then state the effects of yours & Hornblowers under similar loads & rates of Going to show the real merits of the Engines, & conclude with proposing to those who build H[ornblower]'s, to do one third more than they can with the same Coals, & one Cyl[inde]r this may open the Eyes of all people as to the Merits, & as I would not at all touch on their right of using your principles can do no harm, I had formed an intention of doing this without your Knowledge, but upon second thoughts I have given it up, & shall be glad soon to know what you think of it....You may be assured the country has a Notion that your Patent is not tenable & they are determined to drive you to a Tryal in any case I wish I could learn from you, that you are as much determined no proof of the superiority of your Engines will prevent it - Am I right in making the proposal to Tincroft Adv[enture]r under a Penalty for the performance. I am &c -
     Truro 15th June 1792. I come now to your Interests as Engineers, Murdock informed me, that the H[ornblower]s were wonderfully elated & Impertinent; this not from their success in their late efforts, but in having the whole county on their side. it is true that they have given 2 different printed papers, to particular persons since their return, but they have been so few, that I have been able to get a sight of one, & almost every person I have enquired of as likely to have them, had not heard of them, all that I can learn is, that they are challenges for you to meet them in a Court of Law. - Truro July 20th 1792 Not having heard from Mr. Kevill or Jos[eph] Vivian I went again yesterday to the Mine, but with the same success. Mr. K had advised Joseph to ask Mr. Richards' consent to communicate what I wanted & he promised to see him Tomorrow, but he doubted success. the Engine was working lighter than when I saw her last week, Capt Jo[seph] said that was owing to their giving more injection. - I also told him that in case the Adv[enture]rs acceded to the proposal made, that I understood the alteration would be more expensive than I first thought, as I understood from Murdock it would be necessary to have Nozles &c & perhaps a new condenser, that it would be right the Adv[enture]rs should be informed of this, as time would be wanted to get castings he asked why I did not make the proposal in Writing, but this I declined till I had your consent; now if you think it right you will be so good as to send me your proposal -
     Truro 26th July 1792 - E Rogers saw Jos[eph] Vivian on Sunday, the day after he had been with Richards; & he hinted if I would call on him, he would give me the information I wanted, but would not put it down in writing. he also said the Adv[enture]rs would be glad to receive a proposition in writing, for enabling them to go deeper with their present large Cyl[inde]r. you are to observe that their present depth is 28 fath[om]s, Box 9 3/8, Stroke outside 6 feet, Inside 8 f[ee]t 8 In[ches] which is 8 Inches more Leverage than I knew of before yesterday. Cyl[inde]r 27 Inches you will be so good as to enable me to give them an answer. I intend tomorrow to see Capt[ai]n Jo[seph]. - Truro 20th Octo[ber] 1792. I have met with another business, which I think has vexed me, as much as any I have met with this long time. I wrote Mr. Watt that the Adv[enture]rs of the Wherry were to meet on Tuesday last, & that owing to a cold with which I was then confined, I had wrote them what I thought necessary, & did not mean to attend. On thursday I rec[eive]d a letter from Capt[ain] Gundry, that the Adv[enture]rs had determined to build a 21 Inch Cyl[inde]r of Hornblowers Construction that both Jethro & Jonathan was there, & that the Adv[enture]rs were unanimous for them. this is the most mortifying circumstance, to have them build on a place where we are so largely concerned; & where the rotative Engine is so well Calculated for, & to have ones property, sported with which I look upon to be the case merely to Gratify the Caprice, hatred, or Malevolence, of a set of people who really know nothing of the merits, it is almost too much to bear, at least - &c.......I have wrote Carne that the Adv[enture]rs ought in Justice, to indemnify us for all damages or loss that may arise, in consequence of their proceedings. & that it is very probable we shall call upon them so to do. -
   Truro Ap[ri]l 9th 1794 - Hornblower was extremely Scurrilous, declared his Brother ready to Indemnify the Adv[enture]rs Against you, & despised your Threats. I hope there will a time come to talk with him. -''

 

 

X208/18
Letter, M R Boulton to
Wilson regarding Captain Rogers' valuation of William Murdock's shares
Item
1 folio
Manuscript
14 May 1800

Endorsed: Robinson Boulton   May 14th 1800.
Addressed to: Mr T Wilson, Truro, Cornwall.

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